Topher Grace is Venom?

Topher Grace Someone please tell me that someone is screwing with IMDB. Topher Grace is supposed to play Venom in the upcoming Spider-Man 3 according to IMDB.

Didn’t someone already play Eddie Brock in the earlier Spider-Man movies? I might be wrong, but I remember pointing it out to someone. Let’s ignore that because actors are regularly replaced.

Topher Grace though? Venom is a powerful, violent killer. He inspires terror in people. Does this this face scare you? Really?

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  • Anonymous

    I understand why everyone’s so pissed off. Hollywood has been known to ruin some of the best characters of all time. Toper doesn’t look the part of Eddie Brock. One of the best-known comicbook villians deserves an actor who will do him justice. As above posters have said, why can’t they find a big wrestler or someone who resembles Eddie, and give them acting lessons? I’m not a huge comic book fan, but it pisses me off when a choice like this ruins a movie- and a legacy. If you’re going to make a movie based off comic books, why not follow the comics? This is an insult to Spiderman fans, and to Venom fans. There’s a lot of them out there.

  • Anonymous

    I understand why everyone’s so pissed off. Hollywood has been known to ruin some of the best characters of all time. Toper doesn’t look the part of Eddie Brock. One of the best-known comicbook villians deserves an actor who will do him justice. As above posters have said, why can’t they find a big wrestler or someone who resembles Eddie, and give them acting lessons? I’m not a huge comic book fan, but it pisses me off when a choice like this ruins a movie- and a legacy. If you’re going to make a movie based off comic books, why not follow the comics? This is an insult to Spiderman fans, and to Venom fans. There’s a lot of them out there.

  • pretty ricky

    go see the trailer you hipacrits. it lokks bloody awsome

  • pretty ricky

    go see the trailer you hipacrits. it lokks bloody awsome

  • Darkvenom

    Seriously, if you have not seen the new trailer there is a point where you do see this scrawny guy lookin a bit more bulk… I understand how everyone wants to try have everything to relate to the comics but hell one poster before said that everyone had their doubts of of Tobey Maguire; he is not a bad candidate for Spidey and has done well … Most of the critics out there just want the comic book to be copied and pasted into the big screen … it doesn’t happen! You have your comic books and you have your movies! …

    I say shut ya traps; watch the movie and see what happens; if this Grace character screws the roll then imma be very disappointed but lets see how it goes…

  • Darkvenom

    Seriously, if you have not seen the new trailer there is a point where you do see this scrawny guy lookin a bit more bulk… I understand how everyone wants to try have everything to relate to the comics but hell one poster before said that everyone had their doubts of of Tobey Maguire; he is not a bad candidate for Spidey and has done well … Most of the critics out there just want the comic book to be copied and pasted into the big screen … it doesn’t happen! You have your comic books and you have your movies! …

    I say shut ya traps; watch the movie and see what happens; if this Grace character screws the roll then imma be very disappointed but lets see how it goes…

  • GenX Dv8

    I’m Alwayz Right & Angry Fellow ARE SOOO WRONG.

    Go back to your link you provided and read the history and notes within the profile. That 6’3″ height and 260lbs was while he was Venom. http://www.marvel.com/universe/Venom

    Between the time Peter/Spidey made him look the fool and the symbiote merged with him he began an intense work out program to relieve his stress which is why your links show him big as the symbiote comes to him in the church. http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Venom.html

    And David said it fed off his muscles… it feeds off emotions, the darker the better.

    If you people that claim to be huge fans and have read Spidey from way back, then you should be more pissed about the story line than the actor. It’s obvious they’re going with the cartoon origin of Venom than the real deal. The symbiote was found by Spidey on a planet created by The Beyonder during Secret Wars, not the cartoon version of it coming to earth attached to the spaceship of Jameson’s astronaut son.

    Swift: Plus the fact they are going with the Red/Blue costume painted black. It never merged with his costume (as Swift said), it replaced it because his got shredded. It patterned itself after Spider-woman’s because Peter was infatiated with her when they were on the planet together. It didn’t copy his DNA, but after being in a symbiotic relationship fo so long had “absorbed” his abilities. And yes, Peter was affected

    Monev: And the times in the comics black Spidey had the liquid flowing strands was only when the symbiote was using his body while he slept or the symbiot was out by itself.

  • GenX Dv8

    I’m Alwayz Right & Angry Fellow ARE SOOO WRONG.

    Go back to your link you provided and read the history and notes within the profile. That 6’3″ height and 260lbs was while he was Venom. http://www.marvel.com/universe/Venom

    Between the time Peter/Spidey made him look the fool and the symbiote merged with him he began an intense work out program to relieve his stress which is why your links show him big as the symbiote comes to him in the church. http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Venom.html

    And David said it fed off his muscles… it feeds off emotions, the darker the better.

    If you people that claim to be huge fans and have read Spidey from way back, then you should be more pissed about the story line than the actor. It’s obvious they’re going with the cartoon origin of Venom than the real deal. The symbiote was found by Spidey on a planet created by The Beyonder during Secret Wars, not the cartoon version of it coming to earth attached to the spaceship of Jameson’s astronaut son.

    Swift: Plus the fact they are going with the Red/Blue costume painted black. It never merged with his costume (as Swift said), it replaced it because his got shredded. It patterned itself after Spider-woman’s because Peter was infatiated with her when they were on the planet together. It didn’t copy his DNA, but after being in a symbiotic relationship fo so long had “absorbed” his abilities. And yes, Peter was affected

    Monev: And the times in the comics black Spidey had the liquid flowing strands was only when the symbiote was using his body while he slept or the symbiot was out by itself.

  • GenX Dv8

    Peter was affected because with the symbiote feeding off his dark emotions he started acting on them. He started being angrier, dispassionate, and more brutal in his ass kickings. It was when he finally noticed the costume might be the cause that he got Reed Richards to check out his uniform and found out it was alive.

  • GenX Dv8

    Peter was affected because with the symbiote feeding off his dark emotions he started acting on them. He started being angrier, dispassionate, and more brutal in his ass kickings. It was when he finally noticed the costume might be the cause that he got Reed Richards to check out his uniform and found out it was alive.

  • GenX Dv8

    Also from the same link: “It also added bulk to his already large frame and increased his strength to superhuman levels”

  • GenX Dv8

    Also from the same link: “It also added bulk to his already large frame and increased his strength to superhuman levels”

  • Anonymous

    Isaw the trailer, Topher Grace gave the fucking corniest, cheesiest potrayal of Eddie Brock. I couldn’t take it. The whole thing was Brock in a church telling God (who I’m assuming it was, because in the comics Eddie was catholic) that he felt ashamed asking him to kill Spider-Man. In that 5 or 10 second, it was clear that Grace is gonna make Brock look the opposite from the comics. In the comics Brock was a big, buff,scaryfrightening, mercenary-looking, raised in the Bronx(even though it was San Francisco), no remorse, heavy-duty fucker. In every Spider-Man 3 trailer, clip, behind-the-scenes footage, theyhave made him look like a little scrawny, book thumping, hasn’t-been-laid-never-will, sorry little jackoff. It’s fucking humiliating. On a good note however, I did see what”Venom”is gonna look like. The stripes on the arm need to go, but all in all, it was cool, so that plus the Sandman is the only thing that is going to be exiting about Spider-Man 3

  • Anonymous

    Isaw the trailer, Topher Grace gave the fucking corniest, cheesiest potrayal of Eddie Brock. I couldn’t take it. The whole thing was Brock in a church telling God (who I’m assuming it was, because in the comics Eddie was catholic) that he felt ashamed asking him to kill Spider-Man. In that 5 or 10 second, it was clear that Grace is gonna make Brock look the opposite from the comics. In the comics Brock was a big, buff,scaryfrightening, mercenary-looking, raised in the Bronx(even though it was San Francisco), no remorse, heavy-duty fucker. In every Spider-Man 3 trailer, clip, behind-the-scenes footage, theyhave made him look like a little scrawny, book thumping, hasn’t-been-laid-never-will, sorry little jackoff. It’s fucking humiliating. On a good note however, I did see what”Venom”is gonna look like. The stripes on the arm need to go, but all in all, it was cool, so that plus the Sandman is the only thing that is going to be exiting about Spider-Man 3

  • Anonymous

    Hey GenX you stupid dumb fuck, the point is that Brock was big and scary even before the symbiote attached to him.

  • Anonymous

    Hey GenX you stupid dumb fuck, the point is that Brock was big and scary even before the symbiote attached to him.

  • Mike

    First off: Any of those among you who have to curse up and down to prove your point are just showing your ignorance.

    Topher is NOT right for the part of Venom.

    He(Topher)is just too skinny and squeaky. I have been very excited to see the third movie ever since I heard that it was being made; however, that excitement has dwindled quite a bit since I heard who was playing Brock/Venom. I will probably still see the movie but I won’t pay to see it. A friend will probably rent it and I will watch it then. But I definitely will NOT give them my money for this travesty.

  • Mike

    First off: Any of those among you who have to curse up and down to prove your point are just showing your ignorance.

    Topher is NOT right for the part of Venom.

    He(Topher)is just too skinny and squeaky. I have been very excited to see the third movie ever since I heard that it was being made; however, that excitement has dwindled quite a bit since I heard who was playing Brock/Venom. I will probably still see the movie but I won’t pay to see it. A friend will probably rent it and I will watch it then. But I definitely will NOT give them my money for this travesty.

  • Mason

    Topher is o.k but, isn’t the right guy to be playing venom

  • Mason

    Topher is o.k but, isn’t the right guy to be playing venom

  • Mason

    Topher isnt the right guy to play venom

  • Mason

    Topher isnt the right guy to play venom

  • GenX Dv8

    Anonymous Cursing name-caller

    Do you have any real input or do you just troll around to sling crap?

    If you’ve read back to know the real point, several people tried to point out that Brock was always buff and bigger than Parker which is why Venom is too huge to be played by Grace. (Yes, he was buff before the symbiot, but only after starting a rigorous work-out routine and he certainly wasn’t 6’3 and super strong until after)

    In fact, a few of those people tried to use websites as factual data to back up their claims. I simply pointed out that they didn’t even research their own data enough and didn’t have a clue what they were talking about.

    If they had read more of the data, or even if they are old enough to have read Spider-man years before “Secret Wars” was introduced, they would have known Brock started out a normal guy. He didn’t buff up until he started a work-out program to relieve the stress he blamed on Parker, and then when merged with the symbiot, he grew even bigger.

    That was MY point, just to get the facts straight!

    Go troll somehwere else…

    Anyhow, It’s still going to be awesome just because they have the special effects and CGI to make Venom with his teeth, tongue, and all. They have the ability with CGI to make him bigger as Venom or even have a stand-in once the symbiot is attached like the old Hulk TV show. He’s got super-spider/symbiot strength, he doesn’t have to be built like the Hulk to throw cars around.

    Even though the movie isn’t our for another 2 days, the story line of the symbiot arriving is already out because of the Spider-man 3 coloring books in the children’s sections of book stores. Appearently it’s a whole new twist in the fact there is a freak meteor shower that Parker and Mary-Jane watch one night and he symbiot is in one of the rocks that hits close by.

  • GenX Dv8

    Anonymous Cursing name-caller

    Do you have any real input or do you just troll around to sling crap?

    If you’ve read back to know the real point, several people tried to point out that Brock was always buff and bigger than Parker which is why Venom is too huge to be played by Grace. (Yes, he was buff before the symbiot, but only after starting a rigorous work-out routine and he certainly wasn’t 6’3 and super strong until after)

    In fact, a few of those people tried to use websites as factual data to back up their claims. I simply pointed out that they didn’t even research their own data enough and didn’t have a clue what they were talking about.

    If they had read more of the data, or even if they are old enough to have read Spider-man years before “Secret Wars” was introduced, they would have known Brock started out a normal guy. He didn’t buff up until he started a work-out program to relieve the stress he blamed on Parker, and then when merged with the symbiot, he grew even bigger.

    That was MY point, just to get the facts straight!

    Go troll somehwere else…

    Anyhow, It’s still going to be awesome just because they have the special effects and CGI to make Venom with his teeth, tongue, and all. They have the ability with CGI to make him bigger as Venom or even have a stand-in once the symbiot is attached like the old Hulk TV show. He’s got super-spider/symbiot strength, he doesn’t have to be built like the Hulk to throw cars around.

    Even though the movie isn’t our for another 2 days, the story line of the symbiot arriving is already out because of the Spider-man 3 coloring books in the children’s sections of book stores. Appearently it’s a whole new twist in the fact there is a freak meteor shower that Parker and Mary-Jane watch one night and he symbiot is in one of the rocks that hits close by.

  • Anonymous

    I saw the movie today. Venom, counldn’t have been any better. Venom had no moral, no regard for innocent life, like in the comic, and the Venom costume looked fucking awesome. Eddie Brock on the other hand, was the worst Eddie Brock I have ever seen. So any of you who said that Topher Grace would have been good for the part, were fucking wrong. All of you fans have a right to be pissed off, Topher had no qualities of Eddie Brock, none. The only reason I even went to see the movie was because I knew that Venom would be cool, and it was that that made me see the movie. So comic fans, all that you have to do, is pay no attention to Grace, and you’ll enjoy it.

  • Anonymous

    I saw the movie today. Venom, counldn’t have been any better. Venom had no moral, no regard for innocent life, like in the comic, and the Venom costume looked fucking awesome. Eddie Brock on the other hand, was the worst Eddie Brock I have ever seen. So any of you who said that Topher Grace would have been good for the part, were fucking wrong. All of you fans have a right to be pissed off, Topher had no qualities of Eddie Brock, none. The only reason I even went to see the movie was because I knew that Venom would be cool, and it was that that made me see the movie. So comic fans, all that you have to do, is pay no attention to Grace, and you’ll enjoy it.

  • camicazi Loca

    Topher grace is an excellent actor but I think they could’ve got a better, more ripped Eddie Brock. I think Eddie Brock could’ve been MUCH much better! Venom on the other hand was fucking sexy! They did a kick-ass job on Venom! but there was one thing I found wrong with venom, and that was his toungue. there wasn’t really a lot of toungue. there’s one scene where it slightly comes out, but I think they should have killed it with the toungue!! The toungue is one of the things that make Venom VENOM!! I saw the movie merely for the fact that Venom would appear!And personally, I think it was worth the wait!

  • camicazi Loca

    Topher grace is an excellent actor but I think they could’ve got a better, more ripped Eddie Brock. I think Eddie Brock could’ve been MUCH much better! Venom on the other hand was fucking sexy! They did a kick-ass job on Venom! but there was one thing I found wrong with venom, and that was his toungue. there wasn’t really a lot of toungue. there’s one scene where it slightly comes out, but I think they should have killed it with the toungue!! The toungue is one of the things that make Venom VENOM!! I saw the movie merely for the fact that Venom would appear!And personally, I think it was worth the wait!

  • Eric

    I would first like to say that I am not a comic guru, I am not educated in the marvel universe or the ways of the force, all I know is movies and generalities about comics. I know that Venom is a beloved character for most people and that there are a great number of versions of Venom, most of which were rendered as symbiote + Eddie Brock. If we were to look at just cover pictures you would see a wide range of sizes, shapes, and viscocities. Knowing these points it is safe to assume that Eddie Brock is also drawn in various sizes and shapes, thats what is great about comics, they are ever changing.

    If we take the thinnest, nerdiest looking Brock, Topher would be more than capable of handling this. No one can attain the body shape and size of the largest Venom incarnation, nor the giant smile, so we know there will be plenty of CG to take care of that.

    You must approach the movie with the love of the spirit of each comic book character and not get hung-up on the exterior appearance. I saw the movie yesterday and it was a good movie, not the best, but it ranks up there in the comicbook-to-movie line-up. The blacksuit was great, the storyline was solid, and Venom was every bit as acrobatic, sinister, and cruel toward Peter Parker as he could be developed in that 30 minute slot.

    The next movie, and we all know there will be a next one, will most likely include either a story involving the small sample with the good doctor or with a small amount of black goo that remains burning on the building floor in the movie. Venom is too popular to only get 30 minutes of screen-time so have no fear he will return, and since Eddie seems to have been obliterated, he can be reformed by the symbiote into a buffer guy or may not be in the movie at all, we just have to wait to see.

  • Eric

    I would first like to say that I am not a comic guru, I am not educated in the marvel universe or the ways of the force, all I know is movies and generalities about comics. I know that Venom is a beloved character for most people and that there are a great number of versions of Venom, most of which were rendered as symbiote + Eddie Brock. If we were to look at just cover pictures you would see a wide range of sizes, shapes, and viscocities. Knowing these points it is safe to assume that Eddie Brock is also drawn in various sizes and shapes, thats what is great about comics, they are ever changing.

    If we take the thinnest, nerdiest looking Brock, Topher would be more than capable of handling this. No one can attain the body shape and size of the largest Venom incarnation, nor the giant smile, so we know there will be plenty of CG to take care of that.

    You must approach the movie with the love of the spirit of each comic book character and not get hung-up on the exterior appearance. I saw the movie yesterday and it was a good movie, not the best, but it ranks up there in the comicbook-to-movie line-up. The blacksuit was great, the storyline was solid, and Venom was every bit as acrobatic, sinister, and cruel toward Peter Parker as he could be developed in that 30 minute slot.

    The next movie, and we all know there will be a next one, will most likely include either a story involving the small sample with the good doctor or with a small amount of black goo that remains burning on the building floor in the movie. Venom is too popular to only get 30 minutes of screen-time so have no fear he will return, and since Eddie seems to have been obliterated, he can be reformed by the symbiote into a buffer guy or may not be in the movie at all, we just have to wait to see.

  • GenX Dv8

    I have this wierd feeling they will try to use the symbiote sample as a means for Doc Conners to become the Lizard. I know it wasn’t how it happened in the comics, but then the symbiote didn’t fall to earth in a meteor shower in the comics either.

    I don’t think that sample could become Venom because it was removed before the symbiote merged with Brock; however, all that webbing from Venom was actually part of itself so there are plenty of possibilities…

  • GenX Dv8

    I have this wierd feeling they will try to use the symbiote sample as a means for Doc Conners to become the Lizard. I know it wasn’t how it happened in the comics, but then the symbiote didn’t fall to earth in a meteor shower in the comics either.

    I don’t think that sample could become Venom because it was removed before the symbiote merged with Brock; however, all that webbing from Venom was actually part of itself so there are plenty of possibilities…

  • I don’t think that sample could become Venom because it was removed before the symbiote merged with Brock; however, all that webbing from Venom was actually part of itself so there are plenty of possibilities

  • I don’t think that sample could become Venom because it was removed before the symbiote merged with Brock; however, all that webbing from Venom was actually part of itself so there are plenty of possibilities